Patricia - Interview 16
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Patricia, 25, describes herself as White European. She was born in Portugal and came to the UK to work and has been here for 9 months. For the past five years, Patricia has felt anxious every day and experienced numerous panic attacks.
She says that she began feeling anxious, unable to breathe, like she was going to die and having panic attacks following the sudden death of her friend. Her mum who took her to the doctors and Patricia was told there was nothing wrong. A year later, she had a very strong panic attack and saw the doctor again. He prescribed medication which she then took every day for 4 years. Patricia says this medication was highly addictive and made her feel like a drug addict; she was also worried about the long term effects.
On one occasion Patricia went to the hospital emergency department because she thought she was having a heart attack but was given some tests and told she was having a panic attack. When she moved to the UK she thought her anxiety would disappear and didn't have any panic attacks until her workload increased and she found it difficult to sleep.
Patricia describes her anxiety as feeling like you have an exam every day. She says it's as though her body is constantly in an alert state and she interprets what's happening in her body as signs that something is wrong. She constantly has sweaty palms and a dry mouth, and worries about death and what will happen when she dies. These symptoms are exaggerated when she has a panic attack. Her panic attacks usually happen in the evening and can last for hours, even if she takes medication. As a result of her anxiety and panic attacks, Patricia has developed a phobia about going to bed, and can't go to pubs or music festivals. Sleepless nights affect her ability to work the next day and sometimes she feels depressed. Patricia doesn't tell people about her panic attacks because they don't understand and are dismissive of it.
Patricia finds it helps to keeps herself busy - unless she has too much to do which can trigger the attacks. She also avoids coffee, alcohol, people smoking around her, TV programmes, films and news items that might upset her, being a passenger in a car, and she has to plan her day so as to avoid surprises. When she goes to bed she watches a DVD and burns aromatherapy oils to help her fall asleep. Patricia also finds it comforting to read the stories of other people who have had similar experiences. She says she believes these people when they say she'll be fine, because they've experienced the same thing, unlike the doctors she has seen. Other strategies she uses are drinking camomile tea, telling herself it's just her body over-reacting and doing breathing exercises. Patricia also got help from a national support group. She doesn't believe that she will recover, but has come to terms with that.
Patricia doesn't think there is much difference between Portugal and England because they are both Western societies and she has not experienced any discrimination. She says it has helped because she can speak fluent English, especially when it comes to describing her panic attacks.
After her interview, Patricia went to Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.
Patricia believes that a cure for mental health problems is unlikely. She's got used to feeling...

Patricia believes that a cure for mental health problems is unlikely. She's got used to feeling...
Do you mean that one day people will find a '?
Well or' or that one day you will not'?
Right
'Have this anxiety I suppose?
I don't think so. I truly believe without being well without knowing anything about, you know, medicine and anything about how all these things work in one's mind, I've always believed that there are events probably your in childhood or on your life that makes you. And this is why I say that I think that the death, the sudden death of my friend was a major thing in my life because I, I'd seen him two days before and nothing, there was nothing wrong with him. And then all of the sudden he's dead. That is I think that that caused, that must have done something in my mind. So I don't think recovery's very, is very easy because the things that happened you can't erase them from your memory. You can't erase, it just happened. It's in the past but it's still very the, the what, you hear in the situation, the people that were there are still very fresh in your mind and always will. That's I suppose that's trauma I don't know. So I don't think that recovery is very easy on this, on this thing, well with anything sort of mental condition I think or with mental health. So I think it's, I think the solution relies on the attitude and how we behave towards this. Not letting anxiety and panic attacks take on your life. And just dominate your life. You just have to think that you'll have a normal life and eventually they will go away. But they don't [Laughs].
I always tell this might, I always tell this to myself, told it so many times to myself, right now I'm experiencing a good moment. And the good moment is I might have problems with, in my life but I don't, I'm not experiencing panic attacks. But the following day it might happen anyway. So I can have one tonight and then the whole thing starts again so. It just doesn't happen isolated and that's the problem. It always, it always gets you by surprise.
And how do you feel about the, the prospect of maybe always having to live with this?
I'm conformed. When, after you have like so many panic attacks, I used to, I remember in the beginning I used to say, 'Oh I remember that day when I had a panic attack.' I can't say that now because it just happens so many times. It can happen everyday during a two months or three or four months. So I don't, I'm just conformed. I'm just oh well. I just live with it. And I think that's a good attitude really to being able to, you know, that's how I am what am I going to do? Am I going to because if you always think about it, oh I'm going to suffer for the rest of my life? I'm going to be in agony for the rest of my life that doesn't help. It just gets you even more anxious. So all you have to do is just think that you're normal even though you of course there's not such as having normal people and abnormal people. There's no such thing. But you have to think that you will have a normal life anyway. That's, I think that's halfway through for the cure to be honest if there is such a cure.
Can you I mean can you remember a time when, when your when your view shifted then from, from feeling like that was something that would happen from time to time to now coming to the realisation?
It's very gradual. And even when even when you're feeling very positive about it
Patricia experiences a constant feeling of anxiety, "like going to an exam" every day.

Patricia experiences a constant feeling of anxiety, "like going to an exam" every day.
OK. Thank you. I mean just to pick up really where you left off I mean can you tell me a bit more then about what it's like to feel anxious and also what's like to have these panic attacks?
Feeling anxious is not being able to, this I've, it seems like I'm always aware of what's going on with my body. And everything sign that my body transmits is like, there's something wrong with me. And again if my foot hurts or of my hand hurts it's not a major thing. But if I have any sort of palpitation that's it I always think, my god something's about to happen. This is the anxiety thing that I think leads to the panic attacks because I don't think I would have panic attacks if I wasn't anxious. And as I say, it's feeling that constant fear not only that I will have a panic attack sooner or later. But it's also the fact that my body's always, always not shaking or anything but sweaty palms, dryness of the mouth, all those symptoms associated with anxiety. Whereas other people I suppose are just you know normal. They just don't feel anything. They're just in a normal state. I'm always anxious.
With panic attacks is, is a bit different that's when I, usually as I as said when I have some sort of symptom especially related to the heart, I just start thinking the worst things. And that's when all those symptoms that I've just described about anxiety just are even more exaggerated. And that's when I just, I feel like I'm going to die. I can't stop thinking about really bad thoughts in my mind, there's a bit of confusion in my mind. And the worst, the worst things that might happen with, when a panic attack is happening is just trembling and not being able to stop. Even sometimes taking drugs it might still happen for about at least two hours, at least. And that's something that I can't really understand people keep telling me and the specialists keep telling, 'Oh a panic attack happens within seconds.' Not with me it happens it can happen for hours and I can't stop it. I don't have that response. I don't think my body has that response. So briefly that's what happens in a panic attack and that's the whole anxiety thing that's just constant.
She found it difficult to describe panic attacks in her own language and says if you can't speak...

She found it difficult to describe panic attacks in her own language and says if you can't speak...
Definitely. Because as I say, for instance, with panic attacks, I can't describe them very well, even in my own mother tongue let alone in English. If you don't, if you can't speak English then how can you be assisted? You can't, because you can't, you can't point saying, 'This is my problem.' You can go to the hospital with a broken leg, back to the broken leg, and say, 'This is my problem'. And they will fix it for you. But not with a, with something that is in your mind, definitely no. It's concealed.
She was worried that her panic attacks were really a sign of a physical, not psychological...

She was worried that her panic attacks were really a sign of a physical, not psychological...
Patricia weighs up the differences between being in the UK and in her home country; at home she...

Patricia weighs up the differences between being in the UK and in her home country; at home she...
Right. When I, as I said when, when I left Portugal I always thought I'm going to leave the panic attacks behind because the whole situation helps. But no. They will travel with you definitely. And the whole anxiety thing will travel with you. But because you're living a sort of new life when you emigrate, you always think that you no longer have those symptoms and those, you know, and that. The whole, all the problem you think it disappears but eventually it will come just, just give it some time until they settle down and it's you again. And they will come anyway. I don't, I don't think being in the UK triggers more panic attacks. As I say it has good things and it has bad things on the whole thing.
The good things is that I know there's a better response here in terms of, in terms of doctors and people and even society. On the other hand I don't have my friends here. I don't, I have to explain the whole thing to the new people I meet. And certainly the way that people work and how much they work in the UK doesn't help because you can't really sort of you can't say, 'Can I have just a few minutes more of, you know, of lunch break because, you know, I'm not feeling very well today.' You know, you can ask but obviously that's not the ideal situation, because people commit themselves so much to work here that it becomes difficult. Do you see what I mean? And it, it becomes difficult for instance to be able to go for a wander because it's, I consider it a more dangerous place to live in because, you know, it's a bit dangerous out there. So I might not, it might not be a good idea to be a good idea to leave the house and go for a wander which sometimes help just sort or making a panic attack a bit more or making you less anxious. So there are good things and bad things. I suppose there might be, I don't know, I don't think I'm in, I'm in a position to say it's better to be here than in, because Portugal's my home. So it, it's difficult. And I say in terms of response it's been very good that so far. I know that I'm still waiting to get therapy or to be seen by somebody. But at least I know that these people have dealt with panic attacks before. They know probably exactly what I'm going through. And I can join other groups for instance groups that I've mentioned before on the internet. And like minded people I can meet them and talk to them about them about this and it will much easier. So I think yes maybe overall if you want a definite response, maybe overall it's better to be in UK.
Patricia says getting information from the internet about other people's experiences has helped...

Patricia says getting information from the internet about other people's experiences has helped...
But the people on the Internet for instance, they, they know exactly, they, they write their stories and their stories sometimes absolutely match my story and that is such a great comfort, that is just, it's just like taking a pill like I used to and, and just feel fine. So, it's, it's, that's one of the, that's one of those strategies. Another one is basically, I read this article the other day about this, this, this girl, I think she works on TV, and she, basically she has a very similar personality to mine, she's, she tries to be a perfectionist and she worries about everything and what she says is, when you're anxious, when you're having a panic attack, just think that your body is over-reacting and that's it. It's your body, just over-reacting. And that makes it, I say it to myself, 'Oh, I'm feeling anxious, oh, hang on, no. It's your body over-reacting. Forget it.' And this has been working, this has been working for the past month I think. It's very recent and that's why I'm very happy about it.
Patricia says breathing exercises can help to prevent anxiety, but they are not helpful when she...
