Catherine - Interview 02
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Catherine was diagnosed with epilepsy at the age of 15. Her father has epilepsy so she grew up knowing about the condition but was shocked to be diagnosed with it. At the time she would have liked to have had more information about epilepsy and more opportunities to ask questions. She didn't know much about the condition until she moved to her current consultant who is an epilepsy specialist, she also learnt more after university when she started working for an epilepsy charity.
After she was diagnosised the fact that she had to take medication every day made her feel different to other teenagers. Her medication made her put on weight but the medical staff did not warn her about this possible side effect. She said that back then she had low self-esteem, but didn't want to discuss the weight problem with her consultant. She stayed on the same tablets for a number of years but her current consultant changed her medications because it was not working (preventing her seizures). Until then, she did not know that there were different medications and you should ask for the one that controls the epilepsy best. Her new treatment means that she lost the excess weight and has only had one seizure in two years.
Her family's attitude was for her to do all the activities that other young people her age where doing' school, sport, going to parties, etc. She thinks that although her parents were worried at times they did not prevent her from doing the things she wanted to do.
Her school work was only affected when she had a seizure because she would sleep for the rest of the day, but in between seizures her school work was not generally affected by her condition.
As a teenager she had concerns about issues such as drinking alcohol and sex but was too embarrassed to ask, and unfortunately these issues were not raised by her medical team. Since she was 17 however, at every appointment she has had her doctor raising the issue of family planning and contraception because some of the medications for epilepsy do carry a higher risk for the unborn baby.
Having seizures in front of people, particularly those of her own age, made her feel very different and embarrassed especially during her adolescent years. In her experience people who know she has epilepsy are very good about it, including her boyfriends. Those who were unkind to her did so in relation to the side-effect of the medication (overweight) rather than about her seizures. Since going to university she has found it easier to talk to friends and family about how she feels.
Her father has epilepsy so she grew up with somebody with the same condition but her own...
Her father has epilepsy so she grew up with somebody with the same condition but her own...
It was a real shock when I was diagnosed, or certainly when I had my first few seizures. Because with a lot of conditions you can tell there's something wrong. You know, you might have pain or you might have fatigue. But certainly with my condition, it just happened. One day I was okay, and the next day I was somebody with epilepsy. And that was a real shock. You know, even though I'd grown up with somebody in my family having it, it's very different when it happens to you.
So I was diagnosed through going to a paediatrician and having various tests. Looking back, the tests, you know, all went in a bit of rush, because I was diagnosed pretty quickly. And to be honest I don't remember too much about the tests. I wasn't actually given that much information about the condition at the time. Partly that didn't bother me, because I'd grown up knowing about epilepsy. But I know now that there was a lot of information that, that I should have received, but I didn't. You know, nobody actually told me what epilepsy was. Which, you know, when you think about what a complex condition it is, you know, no doctor actually said, 'This is why your brain's acting like this'. Which, looking back, you know, it was really surprising. So really it was a case of being diagnosed and given medication and saying, 'Okay, you know, come back in a few months and we'll see what happens'.
She lacked basic information about epilepsy and its treatment. It was only when a new doctor...
She lacked basic information about epilepsy and its treatment. It was only when a new doctor...
I think just basic information about what the condition was, and more information about treatment as well. With epilepsy and with a lot of the other conditions there's multiple treatments. You know, with epilepsy there are about maybe fifteen different drugs. And some will work for some people and, you know, others will be more suitable for other people. And I never knew that when I was first diagnosed. I was given one tablet, and I just assumed that was the best tablet and that was going to work. And I didn't know that there were other options. So for many years I was just on a couple of tablets and I didn't really push for anything more because I didn't really know there was anything better. And it was only when I met my current doctor, who provided me with more information, that I went on to a different treatment that, that really improved the epilepsy. So I would have really valued more information about what it was and about the medications, about what I was entitled to, how they could help me, that kind of thing.
So the weight problem you had, that went on for quite a while?
Yes, that's right. Because I stayed on that treatment for a number of years. And again I didn't realise that, you know, I could have, chosen a different tablet and the weight wouldn't have been an issue and, you know, I wouldn't have had to be unhappy for so many years because of it. So, yes, that went on for quite a while. And I do wish that I'd brought it up with my doctor and, you know, we could have changed the tablet and maybe not had those problems. So, yes, when I came off that tablet and chose another one, I lost a lot of that weight. And it really improved things. You know, I got a lot of self-esteem back. So that was a good time.
Her medication for epilepsy (Epilim) made her gain weight, but she felt too embarrassed to...
Her medication for epilepsy (Epilim) made her gain weight, but she felt too embarrassed to...
They never told you or warned you that you might put on weight?
No, they never warned me it was a side effect. And I never spoke to them about it. I was really quite embarrassed about it. So it was the last thing I was going to discuss with my doctor, that, 'Hey, I'm really fat and I'm getting picked on because of it'. I know now that, you know, I should have told my doctor that it was making me unhappy and that we could have tried something else. And that's what I would do now. But as a teenager I didn't, I didn't feel like I was able to do that. So, so that affected me.
So the weight problem you had, that went on for quite a while?
Yes, that's right. Because I stayed on that treatment for a number of years. And again I didn't realise that, you know, I could have chosen a different tablet and the weight wouldn't have been an issue and, you know, I wouldn't have had to be unhappy for so many years because of it. So, yes, that went on for quite a while. And I do wish that I'd brought it up with my doctor and, you know, we could have changed the tablet and maybe not had those problems. So, yes, when, when I came off that tablet and chose another one, I lost a lot of that weight. And it really improved things. You know, I got a lot of self-esteem back. So that was a good time.
Only when she saw an epilepsy specialist was she given effective drugs. Since then she could...
Only when she saw an epilepsy specialist was she given effective drugs. Since then she could...
In which way, it wasn't working?
The aim of the tablets is to control the seizures completely. So to stop a person having seizures. And again that was something I didn't know. I didn't know that it was possible to stop these things completely. You know, I, I guess I just thought, 'People with epilepsy have seizures'. You know, none of the doctors ever said, 'We're going to get rid of these things' or, 'We want to get rid of these things completely'. So the aim of the tablets is to do that. And the medications that I were on weren't doing that. I wasn't having many seizures, I was maybe having like four a year, something like that. But it was four too many. So eventually my specialist took me off that medication and chose another one that, that made me have less seizures.
So it's improved, things have improved.
Things have improved, yes, yes.
Another issue when I was younger was the driving. Because having epilepsy, or having seizures prevents you from driving. You have to go for a year without having a seizure until you can get your licence. Now loads and loads of people with epilepsy are controlled with their medication and they do have their driving licence and they've been driving for years. But at a time that, you know, I wasn't controlled. So all of my friends were starting their driving lessons and they were passing their test and, you know, getting their cars. And, and I wasn't able to do that. So I did feel quite isolated actually. And having to rely on people, having to rely on my mum, you know, for many years. It's not nice to, to have to keep asking people to take you places. So I'd really given up hope to be honest of ever being able to drive and ever getting my epilepsy under control. But then I met my specialist and we tried a new medication and it actually stopped the seizures. And I was able to get my driving licence. And that was something that I never ever ever thought would happen.
She was made aware of the importance of using contraception when having sex because the drug she...
She was made aware of the importance of using contraception when having sex because the drug she...
Yes, they did, because that's quite a relevant issue for, for people who are taking medication. And one of, one of the things about my medication is it makes the pill less effective. So if I was on the pill, I would need to take a stronger pill because of my other medication. So, yes, they did bring that up. It was quite embarrassing because my mother was sitting next to me. And there was this 50-year-old guy talking about sex. And you just want to die, and just forget about it. But, yes, they did bring that up, yes.
Did they explain it to you in an easy-to-understand language?
They explained, you know, that, that it was an issue. So, yes, they explained it very quickly. And later on, you know, I found out information or I found leaflets perhaps from the voluntary organisations. There's a lot of information on the Internet. So they explained it very briefly. It was a, more of a kind of question and answer, 'Are you having sex? Are you on the pill? This is what you need to know'.
How do you answer with your parents there?
Absolutely. You know, it's incredibly embarrassing. But absolutely. I mean I was, when I was diagnosed I was 15, so I did have my mum sitting next to me. I guess when I was about 17 maybe, I started having appointments by myself. And then when I was 18, 19, I went over to an adult consultant. So again, you know, the appointments were by myself. And it was a lot easier to bring up those kind of subjects.
She does drink alcohol and it doesn't affect her but she was worried about her epilepsy and...
She does drink alcohol and it doesn't affect her but she was worried about her epilepsy and...
Did anybody explain to you about drinking and, and epilepsy. What it would happen?
No, no. I mean I guess with, with a lot of conditions, it's difficult, because it's so different for everybody. And often it's a case of kind of finding your own way and finding what affects you. So in my case, you know, having some alcohol, I don't know if I am able to say this, having some alcohol doesn't present a problem. For another person it might present a problem. But for me personally it doesn't make my condition any worse. So...
For me, you know, alcohol doesn't, doesn't present a problem. Which, which is good. But certainly it was a concern, you know, when I was first diagnosed.
She was diagnosed age 15 and found doctors talking to her mother instead of her. She would have...
She was diagnosed age 15 and found doctors talking to her mother instead of her. She would have...
How did it make you feel? You were in the same room and they were not talking to you but to your mother.
Not great. You know, I didn't really feel like I was part of the consultation or part of the decision-making process. You know, I was the one who was having the seizures and taking the tablets, but I wasn't really involved in.
Just having it.
Absolutely, just, you're the one that had it but, 'Don't talk'. I think throughout I would have wanted more information and I would have wanted more opportunity to ask questions. Because it is a complicated condition and, you know, it's difficult to, to get your head around. So I would have wanted more opportunity to ask questions. When I was a teenager I think I would have appreciated some time in the appointment without my mum there, and maybe to have discussed the more embarrassing topics like sex and like alcohol, you know, without my mother there. And I think more information about different options.
And what about the language they use when communicating with young people? Did they use an easy-to-understand language? Or did they use long words?
I guess it varies from consultant to consultant. A lot of doctors I think do use terminology that maybe young people, and also adults, don't understand. You know, there's a lot of different words for seizure for example. And somebody might call seizures fits and somebody else might call them something else. So if the doctor is using terminology and isn't explaining it to you, it can be very confusing. So I think if there is something that the doctor is saying that you don't understand, then not being afraid to just say, 'Excuse me, can you just explain this?' You know, it doesn't mean you're stupid. It, it just means that, you know, you don't have a degree in, in brain surgery, you know.
She knows that if she does want to get pregnant she will probably have to change her treatment to...
She knows that if she does want to get pregnant she will probably have to change her treatment to...
Says that a seizure can sometimes disrupt your social life and that plans and activities would...
Says that a seizure can sometimes disrupt your social life and that plans and activities would...
Her worries about her epilepsy faded when she went to university. She started to accept her...
Her worries about her epilepsy faded when she went to university. She started to accept her...
Yes, well, at university I had a great time, I had a great time. I partied hard. I maybe didn't work so hard, but I partied hard. And I did everything that everybody else did. I think maybe at school I was a bit worried, you know, 'What's going to happen if I go out to the pub? Or if I stay out late? Or if I have a seizure in front of people? You know, I'm going to be so embarrassed. I can't do this, this, this'. And once I got to university, you know, things really changed. I maybe accepted my condition more. I thought, you know, 'I'm not going to spend my life worrying about my condition and I'm not going to let it get in the way of things. Yes, I know that I have to take my medication and I know that I have to get eight hours' sleep. But I'm not going to let it stop me going out with my friends and all the kind of things you do as a student'. So, yes, I, I still had seizures throughout university and again sometimes they did impact on my plans or sometimes they did affect my work. You know, for example if I had an essay to hand in and I'd leave it until the last minute and, you know, and then I had a seizure, yes, that did affect my work. But it was just part of life. You know, it didn't stop me as I said partying or going out with my friends or having a boyfriend or anything like that.
But when do you started to talk to your friends or relatives about how you were feeling?
I guess like I said when, when I got to university. I think the change between school and university for loads of young people is a big one. You know, you're going out and you're doing things on your own. And you're away from your family, often for the first time. You know, it's a big emotional change. And like I said my attitude to my condition changed as well. So it was maybe then that I started talking to my friends and family a bit more and talking to my doctors a bit more about how it was making me feel and what I wanted and what I didn't want.
So it's from the age of 19 onwards?
Yes, yes, 18, 19, yes.